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我相信受害者會樂意我讓世界上更多的人知道這件事,不管是不是台灣人。
因為這實在是很噁啊,正在吃飯的我都快不行了。
來源是FB的截圖,本身就是截圖















希望這分享不算構成甚麼罪刑,畢竟我覺得這樣的行為非常值得用所有的髒話描述。

 


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笑著坦然展示一身淋漓的鮮血和殺戮的罪孽。心是烈火鑄成的。

这写出来也没啥用啊……如果有具体信息,还能XX下,虽然非法就是了。航空公司的黑名单不知道对这种适不适用
生命短暂,但死亡却无处不在。
Life was short and death was everywhere.

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我貼出來是為了噁心大家一下不能只有我看到WWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
毛毛說黑出翔我想到早上剛看到這個有關翔的事情

但航空公司怎麼處理這就不知道了,我知道航空公司其實是可以拒載某些被黑名單的乘客的
實際上這事昨天有上新聞了的,大約公司有在處理,但因為新聞本身有很多空服員個人的信息
並且新聞也沒啥用,我就沒有貼了

紅峽青燦 于 2019-1-25 18:36 补充以下内容

FB上原發文的相關資訊

I rarely share anything in hopes of having the post/news go viral. In fact, I never do.

Now I will.

This will be my very first post to be set to "public." Please share and re-post as you see fit.

本貼文權限設為公開,可隨意轉貼。
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Tagging EVA Airways Corp. 長榮航空
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NBC Los Angeles has aired the first newscast in the US about this story, complete with a video interview!

Thank you so much for doing this story, Hetty Chang!

這個事件已經獲得世界第五大,全美第三大新聞集團 NBC (洛杉磯部門)的關注。感謝 NBC 洛杉磯的記者「張晧亭」願意替我們做這個報導!

手機板 / Mobile Link:
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/…/Female-Flight-Attendant-Say…

Desktop/laptop Link:
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/…/Female-Flight-Attendant-Say…
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Posted on Reddit (it's back up!)

https://www.reddit.com/…/perverted_obsese_american_passeng…/
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CNN has published an article covering this! Unfortunately, no picture.

https://www.cnn.com/…/taiwan-eva-air-incident-in…/index.html
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IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT
IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT
IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT

As of 2019-Jan-24 @ 11:01AM PST, we have:

4K+ reactions
930 comments
2.4K+ shares

If and when ANYBODY is able to identify this person, PLEASE PM ME!! I will contact the victims directly to let them know that we've found him.

Please set the visibility of your re-share to PUBLIC, and have them reply on the post.
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Tagging EVA Airways Corp. 長榮航空
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Summary:

Perverted obese, American passenger demanded the all-female EVA cabin crew to undress him, and wipe his ass, as he moaned, "MMMMMM... deeper... deeper!" They did, but were thoroughly traumatized by his lude behavior.

He did NOT need the assistance, because he rejected the same assistance when offered by a male crew member upon landing (LAX -> TPE).

He is a repeat offender, and has harassed EVA flight attendants before. He continued to harass the crew on the second leg of his trip (TPE -> BKK).

EVA Airways Corp. 長榮航空 management had a history of ignoring their FA's pleas and reports of unruly passengers.
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Chronological order of media publication:

https://www.setn.com/News.aspx?NewsID=487858

https://www.setn.com/news.aspx?newsid=487949

https://tw.appledaily.com/new/realtime/20190120/1504018

Includes EVA response:
https://www.ettoday.net/news/20190120/1361358.htm

PTT forum (flight attendant's written response):
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Aviation/M.1547975655.A.BA6.html

Press Conference with Flight Attendant (Mandarin - part-1, high-res):
https://www.facebook.com/news.ebc/videos/847466902271928/

Press Conference with Flight Attendant (Mandarin - full-length, low-res):
https://www.facebook.com/TFAUTFAU/videos/2319262065022908/

Coverage of the press conference:
https://www.ettoday.net/news/20190121/1362125.htm

NextShark article (english):
https://nextshark.com/eva-air-american-passenger

English article:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/31st-passenger-forces-steward…

English article:
https://nypost.com/…/flight-attendant-says-overweight-pass…/

English article:
https://www.businessinsider.com/passenger-made-female-crew-

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Please do NOT share or re-post this very biased, misleading, and factually incorrect article by Phillip Charlier. He turned the discussion into one about fat-shaming and white-shaming:

http://taiwanenglishnews.com/taiwanese-flight-attendant-tra
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FLIGHT INFO
EVA Airways Corp. 長榮航空 BR15 (Boeing 777-300ER)

Departure date/time: Thu-Jan-17 @ 11:32PM PST
Arrival date/time: Sat-Jan-19 @ 5:47AM

Origin: LAX
Destination: TPE (layover)

Passenger's final destination: BKK (Bangkok, Thailand)
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All quoted statements are as direct and accurate a translation as I can provide, based on the Chinese articles.
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On this particular flight, was a Caucasian American who was about to traumatize the experience of the ALL-FEMALE flight crew.

The obese passenger was seated in the economy cabin, but insisted that his obesity prevented him from using the economy cabin's lavatory. After thoughtful consideration, the flight attendants allowed him to use the business class lavatory.

The nightmare that followed, utterly ruined the crew's day, and traumatized one particular flight attendant.

This passenger claimed that his right arm was still recovering from surgery. He needed assistance onto, and off of the toilet seat.

He then demanded that they keep the door open for better circulation, WHILE DEFECATING.

Fortunately (for everyone), the flight attendant insisted on closing the door.

After the crew assisted him into the lavatory, this passenger immediately pressed the [Call Light]. He told them that he had only taken his underwear off halfway, and was unable to pull it the rest of the way down.

With his legs spread, and GENITALS EXPOSED, he pointed at a flight attendant, "You do it. You agreed to assist me."

The flight attendant put a blanket over his legs cover up the obscene sight, and told him that she was unable to help him remove his underwear. The passenger said, "I've got it only halfway down, how do you expect me to [poop]? Hurry up and help me take it off! You just said you were willing to assist me."

The flight attendant, already feeling violated for having been exposed to his genitals, very hesitant put on a pair of gloves, approached him, and actually pulled down his underwear for him.

You'd think this would've been the end...

After the passenger finished his business, he then announced that he was finished. The flight attendant opened the door, and saw him still on the toilet.

This was when he asked to have a flight attendant WIPE HIS BUTT.

The same flight attendant responded, "I can't do that, this is too much. We're an all-female crew, EVA does not have male flight attendants. There is nobody who can assist you." The passenger snapped back, "You agreed!"

Nearly in tears, she replied, "I agreed to help you onto and off from the toilet seat, not to help you wipe."

... but the passenger kept at it, "You agreed! I've already [pooped]. If nobody helps me, would you like me to just stay here [for the rest of the flight]?"

At this point, the flight attendant tells the Chief Purser that she couldn't bring herself to do it.

In the end, the flight crew agreed that they couldn't have a passenger causing such a commotion. So the Chief Purser put on 3 layers of gloves, and... with the help of the first flight attendant holding the passenger up, proceeded to wipe his butt.

As she did the deed, he called out, "MMMMMM~~~ Deeper... Deeper~~~"

After all was said and done, the flight attendant retreated back to the crew lavatory, vomited, and sobbed. She later recounted how she felt, "I never thought I'd see this day, never thought about wanting to resign so desperately, never felt so violated."

Now... at this point, there may have been a sliver of possibility that the passenger was truly in need of assistance (although the "Deeper... Deeper..." moaning was absolutely despicable, in my opinion). If this were the case, then the ordeal endured by the cabin crew may not have been completely in vain.

However, this wasn't the case.

Upon landing, the passenger told the crew that he needed the biggest wheelchair they had waiting for him at the gate. Otherwise, walking by himself would cause his foot to blister/ruptures (approximate translation). Thus, there was a male, gate crew member waiting at the gate, with a wheelchair. The crew member asked the passenger whether he needed to use the restroom [again], and whether he needed assistance.

The passenger replied, he needed to use the restroom, BUT REQUIRES NO ASSISTANCE.
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So....................

* He wanted the female flight attendants to help him remove his underwear and wipe his ass, BUT...

* He didn't need the male gate crew member to assist him in the restroom at all.
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Why am I sharing this?

We all know what would've happened had he tried to pull this crap on a US-based airline. He probably felt that the Taiwan-based EVA Airways Corp. 長榮航空 crew would be easier to coerce, and took advantage of them.

EVA Airways Corp. 長榮航空 is not at liberty to divulge the passenger's personal identifiable data, so it's up to us.
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Again, I've never asked anybody to share my posts before, but I'm asking now.

I want this degenerate identified, and publicly exposed (in all the ways he doesn't want).

We know that his itinerary started at LAX, so my friends in SoCal, and with SoCal connections, could be of great help!
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Turns out, this passenger is a REPEATE OFFENDER. There had been multiple post-flight reports written by EVA crews about his behavior. Similar demands, similar perversion.
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On this latest itinerary, he flew from LAX -> TPE, where this incident took place. TPE was just a layover, and on the following TPE -> BKK flight, he again made demands that required "special" attention from the crew. He spilled a red beverage (wine? juice? I don't know), and asked that a flight attendant clean his clothes, his pants, his legs, his chest. The first time around, an FA complied, but already felt uncomfortable. Then he presses the CALL light again, and this time, he spilled yogurt, and asked (a different FA) that he be cleaned. As she went to fetch a clean cloth, the first FA warned her about him. They provided him with a clean cloth, and asked that he clean himself. He said, "You do it better than me!" Go figure.
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2019-01-20 @ 4:07AM PST

EVA's official response:

In regards to the incident where a passenger requested assistance from our flight crew, EVA considers our employees a [valuable] company resource. Safeguarding the wellfare of our employees is our responsibility. The US Department of Transportation has clear guidelines on whether passengers must provide prior notice if they require assistance. EVA's own guidebook mirror the DoT guidelines. [By default], EVA cabin crews are NOT required to provide passengers with assistance in the use of lavatories, feeding, or use of medications. Medically-necessary assistance must be accompanied by documentation.

In cases where passengers make unreasonable demands, cabin crews may follow guidelines for handling unexpected disturbance, by refusing the request, escalating with a verbal warning, then [visual] warning (??). This ensure cabin safety and maintains the dignity of our cabin crew.

EVA has provided the affected cabin crew(s) with counseling services, and will be confirming whether the passenger's behavior qualifies as sexual harassment. If we discover that the passenger has caused any harm to our flight attendant, we will take appropriate action to prevent similar incidents in the future.
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2019-01-20 @ 4:36PM PST

https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Aviation/M.1547975655.A.BA6.html

Good evening, I'm the flight attendant who went through this ordeal. I'd like to voice a few thoughts:

1) During the moment, I actually did not act in a submissive manner. He just kept insisting that I had agreed to wipe his butt. As I stated in my original post, I had only agreed to help him off the toilet seat.

2) Our company culture has always been more critical of our own employees [rather than others]. Of course I could have let him simply relieve himself in his pants. Well, then the rest of the passengers in the 80% filled cabin, would also suffer at his hands. Some suggested that we could have simply left him in the lavatory. However, flight regulations generally prevent us from allowing passengers to be in the lavatory during takeoff and landing.

3) It's difficult to stand your ground against unreasonable customers, when your employer has exhibited a pattern of not only failing to support their own people in such situations, but to instead question our performance.

I appreciate all of the feedback that I've received. Simply put, no amount of company guidelines or PR statements can make up for their lack of support. In the end, nobody dares to step up for fear of being reprimanded.

For the record, our company culture is such that, even if the passenger was Taiwanese, we'd still be expected to wipe their butts.
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Press Conference: Part 1 (hi-res)

2019-01-20 @ 10:00PM PST

Press Conference with the Victim Flight Attendant
桃園市空服員職業工會記者會

https://www.facebook.com/news.ebc/videos/847466902271928/
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Press Conference Parts 1&2 (low-res)

EBC had their live broadcast interrupted halfway through, but the Union continued the feed here:

https://www.facebook.com/TFAUTFAU/videos/2319262065022908
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我們在美國常常想家,也相信飛回台灣的旅程有很多長榮航空周到服務帶來的美好回憶。

身為一位長榮空服員的好朋友,看到她們受到如此對待感到相當痛心!
當有乘客需要協助時,她們都很樂意提供幫助,但也僅限她們能做的以及她們願意做的,她們是空服員,不是看護,也是父母疼愛的女兒,請大家換位思考一下,如果今天是您們的女兒遭受到如此對待,您們不心疼嗎?

以下是我朋友的心聲:

「長榮航空是個五星級的服務,但卻往往忘了自家員工的心情,這位無理的乘客已經不是第一次搭機也不是第一次造成組員困擾,但長榮航空遲遲未對該乘客有任何處置,因而導致該乘客愈來愈失控,這次幫忙擦屁股,下次會是什麼我們不敢想像,甚至我們害怕下個受害者就是我們,此事件的受害者甚至打算去看心理醫生了!
空服員的核心價值,首要就是維持飛航安全,能帶領乘客安全的抵達目的地是我們的驕傲,次要是在航行途中給予乘客們舒適的旅程,我們不敢說百分之百服務周到,但能給予幫助都盡量做到,但給予的方便不該被當成隨便,希望大家能盡一點點心力,轉達您們的意見,讓長榮公司了解這樣的乘客我們也能拒絕載他,能讓我們勇敢說不!」
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建議大家別轉貼這篇英文報導。作者明顯偏心,語氣跟用語把空服員寫得好像太敏感了,而翻譯時把旅客的用語無理溫和化 ("請妳們拜託幫我脫內褲。")。同時模糊焦點轉成對白人以過重人士的歧視。

http://taiwanenglishnews.com/taiwanese-flight-attendant-tra
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2019-01-20 @ 4:07AM PST

長榮發佈:

長榮航空針對此位外籍旅客要求空服員協助如廁一事表示,員工是公司的資產,保護員工是公司的職責,美國運輸部(Department Of Transportation)頒布之法令,對於航空公司載運身心不便旅客時應提供及無須提供之協助有明確規範,此規範均載明於空服員手冊中,因此本公司空服員毋須提供旅客如廁、餵食、醫療服務等特殊照護。

空服員對於旅客提出無理、過分之要求,可運用機內異常旅客處理程序,以口頭溝通勸戒、書面警告、報請航警等流程,予以拒絕,以維護機上安全、秩序與空服員應有之尊嚴。

對於該位空服員基於服務之初心而提供旅客的協助,本公司已關懷並將視空服員之需求適切提供相關身心諮詢協助;同時,公司也將進一步調查該名旅客是否涉及性騷擾行為,若該名旅客行為造成空服員傷害,公司將會採取必要措施以為因應,避免類似情況再度發生。
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2019-01-20 @ 4:36PM PST

https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Aviation/M.1547975655.A.BA6.html

晚安,我是當事人,在這裡回覆你

1.當下我的態度並沒有軟弱,
但是他一直咬著我有答應他會幫他脫內褲和擦屁股。
但如同我文章所說,我當初只答應他會協助他離開馬桶。

2.敝公司的文化一直都是永遠檢討自己人,
我當然可以讓他拉在褲子上,
但是請問你想過8成滿的經濟艙還有其他客人嗎?
或者你會說,乾脆就讓他留在廁所裡。
但是你有想過航空法有規定,在航機起降時,
若非緊急事態(CPR)廁所不得有人?

3.當你的公司不會挺你,發生事情時,只會質疑你的時候,
你真的敢這麼強硬的拒絕客人嗎?
你真的敢就這樣直接離開嗎?

最後謝謝你的指教,說了那麼多,其實可以把這件事講得很簡單:
公司若不能挺員工,所有的手書準則要執行時,只能淪為口號,
大家都知道可以拒絕,但是沒有人敢這麼做。

FYI 在這個公司的文化下,就算是台灣人,
我們還是得蹲下來憋著氣幫他擦!


台灣公司文化怎樣就不說了,噁心程度不輸日本我自行有感,要在台灣當助理存錢我都有點猶豫了。
但還是要說當事主太過分了,我管你有幾噸重,相撲力士坐飛機噸位也不會輸,
噁心的還是行為本身。

快把萌燦抱回家!
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这个事件本身我倒觉得不算很奇异~
倒是解决的方式和思路我觉得比较奇怪WWWWWWWWWWWW(X)

这个人本身在白人里挺常见的吧~
感觉是个比较典型的white trash,白人至上主义者,maybe an asian fetish guy,所以一有机会就像借自己的身份占点便宜,尤其是性骚扰方面~
再加上由于长期受病痛折磨,性情也变得更加怪诞嚣张不可理喻~
大概就是这么个家伙,可以说所在皆是也~

比较奇怪的方面我觉得是~
按理来说,正常的航空公司,对如何应对这种人应该是有一套固定方式的,而空乘人员的职业道德规范,应该也会有规定哪些属于服务范围,应用专业化的态度对待;哪些不属于服务范围,应如何处理等等~
而这里所述的事件中,无论是航空公司的详细规定还是空乘人员的职业规范,目测都是显然没有的~
而在没有的前提下出了这样的人和事,我不理解的是,为什么无论空乘本人,还是参与讨论的大众,主要关注的都不是这两方面的问题~
而是大家都开始take personal!主要都是在声讨这个人本人,以及听她诉说这件事多惨多惨,给自己了多大的伤害和多深的阴影~
并且一如既往,当时各方都开始通过一种诡异的卖弱的方式来争取道德高地WWWWWWWWWWWWW
在我们大陆的视角看来,这个剧情展开真的有点迷不是很容易理解!哎WWWWWWWWWWWWW
穿过县界长长的隧道便是雪国。

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你有這種疑惑,顯然你還不夠了解台灣人WWWWWWWWWWW
台灣人檢討事情或處理事情從來都不處理重點的(O)

我的感覺是,由於前面的FB發文是空姐個人的發洩,會充斥她個人的情緒內容也很合理,
我就只當成是一個事件經過在看,而你看我對羽龍的回文裡面,是轉發FB文的人附帶的信息。
誠如你所說,不管是哪一部分的資訊,似乎都缺乏空服員對這個人的標準化處理流程,
在空姐個人的發文裡對於她不得不去處理,她的看法是為了不影響其他乘客的舒適所以才勉強配合,
而在其他人的聲援中,有人提到不去處理這個人,他會直接尿在座位上等等的,
所以那些空服員都是本著"不要影響其他客人"去處理他的。

而轉發者那裏所說的,我感覺似乎是航空公司想要讓這事情息事寧人,
私底下可能有譴責空姐將事情公諸網路等等,所以轉發者才會說"公司不挺員工",
這部分我想要強調的是,這是台灣噁心的公司文化一部分吧。
顯然公司對這種人毫無辦法,甚至也沒有給予空姐們對於這種人的處置訓練是事實。

而我個人的想法,我知道航空公司肯定能查出這人的資料,拒載這人完全是可以做到的,
航空公司又不是慈善企業,但公司不這麼做很是奇怪。好吧確實是不保護員工。

至於為甚麼貼出來,因為毛毛昨天說了"黑出翔",害我想到這事情,
我要給大家都噁心一下,這種沒衛生的事情不能只有我看到WWWWWWWW


【发帖际遇】紅峽青燦 在闲适的成野市玩耍得乐不思蜀,每天大鱼大肉加上各种娱乐活动,却渐渐生疏了探险的本领,失去了 30探险经验 。

际遇事件仅作娱乐,正式设定请见【DL故事集】

快把萌燦抱回家!
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